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		<title>2012 Winter Meetings: Greinke Talk, Posturing On Ryu, Dickey &amp; Shields Among Targets</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Dodgers will offer Zack Greinke the most money to sign, according to Jon Heyman, because they have no concept of a budget. The Dodgers have an interesting strategy that&#8217;s been employed only rarely: Sign the best, no matter the cost. &#8220;They are like theSteinrenner Yankees of the &#8217;70s,&#8221; one competing GM said. Rival executives ...]]></description>
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<p>The <strong>Dodgers</strong> will offer <strong>Zack Greinke </strong>the most money to sign, <a href="http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/21246108/budget-what-budget-dodgers-appear-ready-to-open-vault-for-greinke" target="_blank">according</a> to <strong>Jon Heyman</strong>, because they have no concept of a budget.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers have an interesting strategy that&#8217;s been employed only rarely: Sign the best, no matter the cost.</p>
<p>&#8220;They are like theSteinrenner Yankees of the &#8217;70s,&#8221; one competing GM said.</p>
<p>Rival executives are beginning to wonder of there&#8217;s any chance to compete with the Dodgers in the Zack Greinke sweepstakes. Greinke is said by friends to be an unusual free agent who values comfort and winning right up there with money, so some teams will hang in there with a bit of hope.</p>
<p>But it seems pretty clear who is going to offer Greinke the biggest deal at this point. The Dodgers seem determined to sign him, no matter the cost. As Dodgers president Stan Kasten said, &#8220;We are the opposite of the mystery team.&#8221;</p>
<p>Asked about their budget, one Dodgers person responded on Monday, &#8220;What budget?&#8221;</p>
<p>Some wonder whether it might be wise to sign up Clayton Kershaw first, thus in effect capping Greinke&#8217;s final price. But one rival exec said, he believes the Dodgers &#8220;just don&#8217;t care&#8221; how much things cost.</p></blockquote>
<p>Greinke is a unique free agent in the sense that it&#8217;s believable that he could make his decision based on comfort over sheer money. Though if the combination of staying in Los Angeles and an offer with the most money comes across the table, I find it hard to believe he&#8217;ll turn that down.</p>
<p>This goes counter to what <strong>Joel Sherman</strong> reports though, as he says the <strong>Rangers</strong> have every intention of spending right along side the Dodgers on Greinke.</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Heard <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Rangers">#Rangers</a> right there with <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Dodgers">#Dodgers</a> in willingness to spend on Greinke, <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Nationals">#Nationals</a> still talking <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Angels">#Angels</a> all but fallen out at these $$</p>
<p>&mdash; Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/275681035075846144" data-datetime="2012-12-03T19:20:55+00:00">December 3, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Could make things interesting since they also have television money to spend.</p>
<p>The sleeper in all of this is still the <strong>Nationals</strong>, who I think have a lot more money than people would expect.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Ned Colletti</strong> has said that if things continue the way they are, <strong>Hyun Jin Ryu</strong> is unlikely to be signed.</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Dodgers">#Dodgers</a> GM Ned Colletti said talks with Ryu Hyun-jin are moving slowly.</p>
<p>&mdash; Dylan Hernandez (@dylanohernandez) <a href="https://twitter.com/dylanohernandez/status/275740352315547650" data-datetime="2012-12-03T23:16:37+00:00">December 3, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Colletti: At this pace, a deal with Ryu won&#8217;t get done.</p>
<p>&mdash; Dylan Hernandez (@dylanohernandez) <a href="https://twitter.com/dylanohernandez/status/275740549045182464" data-datetime="2012-12-03T23:17:24+00:00">December 3, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
<p>In response to this, <strong>Scott Boras</strong> <a href="http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgersnow/la-sp-dn-agent-ryu-hyunjin-could-pitch-in-japan-20121204,0,489370.story" target="_blank">trolled back</a>, saying Ryu could end up in Japan.</p>
<blockquote><p>South Korean left-hander Ryu Hyun-jin could pitch in Japan next season if he doesn’t sign with the Dodgers, his agent said Tuesday.</p>
<p>“Japan is a very viable option for him,” said Scott Boras, who disputed the notion that his client doesn’t have any leverage in his negotiations with the Dodgers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Never a dull moment with Boras, man.</p>
<p>The deadline is 5 PM on Sunday, so there&#8217;s still quite a bit of time, and <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/11/rumor-mill-shohei-otani-hyun-jin-ryu-updates-out-on-torii-hunter-scout-signings/" target="_blank">we knew from before</a> that the Dodgers probably preferred to wait until after the <strong>Winter Meetings</strong> were over to finalize a deal with him. That makes sense, especially in light of news that they&#8217;re involved on a whole mess of players at the moment.</p>
<p>At the end of the day though, I have a difficult time believing that a deal with Ryu won&#8217;t get done, especially given the team&#8217;s alleged lack of financial restrictions.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>The Dodgers are talking with a whole bunch of teams in regards to trades, according to Colletti.</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Dodgers">#Dodgers</a> are talking to 10-12 teams about potential trades, GM Ned Colletti said.</p>
<p>&mdash; Dylan Hernandez (@dylanohernandez) <a href="https://twitter.com/dylanohernandez/status/275755289519747072" data-datetime="2012-12-04T00:15:58+00:00">December 4, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Ken Gurnick</strong> <a href="http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121203&#038;content_id=40508816" target="_blank">says</a> this includes the <strong>Mets</strong> and <strong>R.A. Dickey</strong> (along with at least <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/ra-dickey-rumors-tuesday.html " target="_blank">seven other teams</a>), while <strong>Molly Knight</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/molly_knight/statuses/275773251014246401" target="_blank">adds</a> that the <strong>Rays</strong> and <strong>James Shields</strong> are involved. Jon Heyman <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/rays-increasingly-likely-to-trade-starter.html" target="_blank">adds that</a> the Rays are increasingly likely to deal a starter and that the suitors include the Dodgers, Rangers, and Nationals.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how legit that Dickey interest is, but I have been hearing about the Dodgers being in on Shields a lot, so it seems that would be their primary target. Wouldn&#8217;t be surprised at all to see that rumor escalate today.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>As for the fourth outfielder issue, Ken Gurnick has mentioned that <strong>Nate Schierholtz</strong> <a href="http://mlb.mlblogs.com/2012/12/03/dodgers-look-at-schierholtz/" target="_blank">is a target</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>One non-tendered player the Dodgers have some interest in is outfielder Nate Schierholtz, cut loose last week by the Phillies, who acquired him from the Giants in the Hunter Pence trade.</p></blockquote>
<p>Schierholtz doesn&#8217;t play center, is left-handed, and had a .698 OPS last year.</p>
<p>I know he has hit righties well over the last two years, but if you look at the larger sample size of his career, there&#8217;s like a 30 point OPS difference in his platoon split, which hardly makes him a platoon weapon.</p>
<p>I would hope they can do better.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Rafael Ynoa</strong> is generating interest in regards to the <strong>Rule 5 Draft</strong>, which doesn&#8217;t surprise me.</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hearing some Rule 5 buzz on <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Dodgers">#Dodgers</a> infielder Rafael Ynoa.</p>
<p>&mdash; Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/275733089047674883" data-datetime="2012-12-03T22:47:45+00:00">December 3, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
<p>I would give him a ceiling of a utility player, but I think there&#8217;s a chance he could stick all year, so why wouldn&#8217;t a team with 40-man roster space give him a shot now? Coming off his red-hot <strong>AFL</strong>, there&#8217;s probably no better time.</p>
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