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		<title>2012 Winter Meetings: Ryu offer rejected, Greinke&#8217;s price up, Capuano/Harang/Uribe shopped</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chad Moriyama</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Dodgers made an offer to Hyun Jin Ryu, but it was rejected by Scott Boras, according to Ned Colletti. The Dodgers made a long-term offer to Korean pitcher Ryu Hyun-jin on Tuesday, but it was rejected by agent Scott Boras. &#8220;Predictably, it fell a tad short,&#8221; said general manager Ned Colletti. The Dodgers have ...]]></description>
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<p>The <strong>Dodgers</strong> <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121204&#038;content_id=40528246" target="_blank">made an offer</a> to <strong>Hyun Jin Ryu</strong>, but it was rejected by <strong>Scott Boras</strong>, according to <strong>Ned Colletti</strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers made a long-term offer to Korean pitcher Ryu Hyun-jin on Tuesday, but it was rejected by agent Scott Boras.</p>
<p>&#8220;Predictably, it fell a tad short,&#8221; said general manager Ned Colletti.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers have until Sunday to sign Ryu or they lose exclusive negotiating rights and their $25.7 million posting fee is refunded.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re debating our next step,&#8221; said Colletti. &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe we&#8217;re close right now.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/12/2012-winter-meetings-greinke-talk-posturing-on-ryu-dickey-shields-among-targets/" target="_blank">As I said yesterday</a>, I still think this is all posturing by both sides to get the best deal possible.</p>
<p>For <a href="http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgersnow/la-sp-dn-dodgers-offer-to-ryu-hyunjin-rejected-20121204,0,7524799.story " target="_blank">his part</a>, Boras later clarified the situation to <strong>Dylan Hernandez</strong>.</p>
<blockquote>[Updated at 5:35 p.m.: Ryu's agent, Scott Boras, said he presented the Dodgers with a counteroffer. "We exchanged offers, and negotiations continue," Boras said.]
<p>Boras, said his client should be compensated like a major league No. 3 starter. So, presumably, he’s looking for something in the $50-million range. [Updated at 9:45 p.m.: This estimate was high, according to a person familiar with the discussions.]</blockquote>
<p>The reasons for the Dodgers wanting to wait should be obvious, because if they sign <strong>Zack Greinke</strong> and trade for <strong>James Shields</strong> or something of the sort, then their leverage in negotiations with Ryu becomes extremely one-sided.</p>
<p>For now? Just have to wait it out.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Speaking of Greinke, the Dodgers and <strong>Rangers</strong> are <a href="http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/21265126/rangers-dodgers-believed-to-be-battling-for-greinke-at-moment " target="_blank">apparently in a bidding war</a> of sorts, according to <strong>Jon Heyman</strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers have been viewed as a fairly clear favorite for Greinke, but Texas is showing signs of determination, according to major-league sources.</p>
<p>The Dodgers are seen as having an almost unlimited payroll, but people familiar with the happenings now suggest the derby could go either way. Not many teams could hope to go dollar-for-dollar against the Dodgers, but the Rangers are trying to do just that.</p>
<p>The bidding is said by major-league officials to be &#8220;quite high&#8221; now, with two people pegging the dollar amount at about $160 million. And that&#8217;s with the deal not done yet. There seems an extreme likelhood now that Greinke will not only set a record for righthanded pitcher but for any pitcher, which is currently held by CC Sabathia, who signed for $161 million and seven years with the Yankees.</p>
<p>Some have suggested they could even see the Greinke deal reaching toward the $175-million mark.</p></blockquote>
<p>This situation, however, could be severely impacted by the Rangers negotiations with <strong>Josh Hamilton</strong>, according to <strong>Danny Knobler</strong>, as <a href="http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/danny-knobler/21268369/for-the-rangers-its-likely-greinke-or-hamilton-not-greinke-and-hamilton" target="_blank">they probably won&#8217;t sign both</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>But one scenario they don&#8217;t see happening, according to sources, is a double free-agent signing of both Greinke and Hamilton.</p></blockquote>
<p>And they certainly seem on pace to sign one or the other, <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/rangers-rumors-hamilton-greinke.html " target="_blank">according</a> to <strong>Ken Rosenthal</strong>.</p>
<p>For his part, <strong>Jon Paul Morosi</strong> is of <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/statuses/276099633544036352" target="_blank">the belief</a> that the Dodgers are the clear favorite, while <strong>Bill Shaikin</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/statuses/276108686466875393" target="_blank">adds</a> that this drama may not be over by the time the <strong>Winter Meetings</strong> conclude.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Connected to Greinke in a way, the Dodgers are <a href="https://twitter.com/pgammo/statuses/276128573377613825 " target="_blank">apparently shopping</a> <strong>Chris Capuano</strong> and <strong>Aaron Harang</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/statuses/276084118498979840" target="_blank">to whoever</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>One exec says &#8220;Dodgers shopping Capuano and Harang around lobby. Greinke and Rhu, or Greinke and Sanchez or Dempster?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>#Dodgers becoming aggressive in shopping Harang and Capuano, source says. Could be a sign of confidence in landing Zack Greinke. @MLBONFOX</p></blockquote>
<p>I doubt either of them would be hard to deal at any point in the off-season. Both are on short-term deals, the Dodgers could eat money if necessary, and the return demands probably won&#8217;t be significant.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><u><strong>COMEDY BREAK</strong></u></p>
<p>The Dodgers are running around <a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/dodger-report/post/_/id/3411/dodgers-shopping-juan-uribe" target="_blank">shopping</a> <strong>Juan Uribe</strong>!</p>
<blockquote><p>One of the agendas the Dodgers are pushing aggressively in the lobby is to find a trade partner to take utility infielder Juan Uribe. Needless to say, the Dodgers are garnering little interest unless they&#8217;re willing to pay his entire contract. Uribe, who has batted .199 the past two seasons combined, is entering the final year of a three-year, $21 million contract.</p></blockquote>
<p>What a disaster.</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Asked an MLB official if <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Dodgers">#Dodgers</a> might be able to interest <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Yankees">#Yankees</a> in Juan Uribe with A-Rod injured. The guy chuckled.</p>
<p>&mdash; Bill Shaikin (@BillShaikin) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/status/276068986679091200" data-datetime="2012-12-04T21:02:30+00:00">December 4, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s become a punchline, as it should, really.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Dee Gordon</strong> <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/mariners-interested-in-dee-gordon.html" target="_blank">appears to be</a> a popular target for teams, including the <strong>Mariners</strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers are fielding tons of inquiries on shortstop Dee Gordon, tweets Scott Miller of CBS Sports, though they&#8217;re not looking to deal him.  The Mariners are among the teams hitting the Dodgers hard on Gordon, tweets Miller.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve given <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/12/winter-meetings-shohei-otanis-second-thoughts-dee-gordon-shopped-james-loney-signs/" target="_blank">my thoughts on Dee previously</a>, though I&#8217;m not sure what the Mariners have that the Dodgers want.</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not <strong>Felix Hernandez</strong>. Stop.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking more along the lines of <strong>Kyle Seager</strong>, <strong>Corey Seager</strong>&#8216;s older brother. The Mariners have <strong>Alex Liddi</strong> and <strong>Vinnie Catricala</strong>.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Perhaps the <strong>R.A. Dickey</strong> rumors have some legs after all?</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hearing Dodgers thinking big, have strong interest in Dickey even if they sign Grienke. But they don&#8217;t have good young OF to trade.</p>
<p>&mdash; John Harper (@NYDNHarper) <a href="https://twitter.com/NYDNHarper/status/276075183612239873" data-datetime="2012-12-04T21:27:07+00:00">December 4, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Source says Mets could get speedy SS Dee Gordon and top pitching prospect Zach Lee from Dodgers for Dickey. But that doesn&#8217;t help OF.</p>
<p>&mdash; John Harper (@NYDNHarper) <a href="https://twitter.com/NYDNHarper/status/276076782808076288" data-datetime="2012-12-04T21:33:28+00:00">December 4, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>That would be &#8230; a lot for a rental.</p>
<p>Still not sure I buy the interest as legit either. Not yet, at least.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>In interest of filling out their bench, the Dodgers are apparently <a href="https://twitter.com/DKnobler/statuses/276124475341291521" target="_blank">interested in trading</a> for <strong>Skip Schumaker</strong>, according to Danny Knobler.</p>
<p>He plays second, left field, center field, and right field, so there&#8217;s versatility there, but he&#8217;s a terrible defender at second, a bad one in center, and just solid-average in the corners. Over the last three seasons, since he turned 30, he&#8217;s had an OPS+ of 88.</p>
<p>Not so thrilled, really.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Oh, and Colletti <a href="https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/statuses/276105195233087488" target="_blank">shot down</a> those <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/12/winter-meetings-2012-greinke-looks-anibal-in-reserve-sorianolowe-relief-options-ss3b/" target="_blank">rumors from yesterday</a> about them seeking starters at SS/3B. But there&#8217;s no reason to think he&#8217;s being truthful either.</p>
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		<title>2012 MLB Draft: Los Angeles Dodgers &#8211; Day 1 &#8211; The 18th Overall Pick Is Corey Seager</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 01:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chad Moriyama</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Los Angeles Dodgers selected Corey Seager with the 18th overall pick in the 2012 MLB Draft. I mentioned him as a player I liked in the preview I posted earlier today, and the Dodgers made the SS (future 3B) out of Northwest Cabarrus High School in North Carolina their top man. His brother, Kyle ...]]></description>
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<p>The <strong>Los Angeles Dodgers</strong> selected <strong>Corey Seager</strong> with the 18th overall pick in the <strong>2012 MLB Draft</strong>. I mentioned him as a player I liked in <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/06/2012-mlb-draft-los-angeles-dodgers-preview/" target="_blank">the preview I posted earlier today</a>, and the Dodgers made the SS (future 3B) out of <strong>Northwest Cabarrus High School</strong> in <strong>North Carolina</strong> their top man. His brother, <strong>Kyle Seager</strong>, is the current starting third baseman for the <strong>Seattle Mariners</strong>.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Baseball America</strong> ranked him as the #19 prospect in the draft and had <a href="http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft-preview/?srch=byNatRank&#038;top=500" target="_blank">this</a> to say about him:</p>
<blockquote><p>The younger brother of Mariners third baseman Kyle Seager, Corey has been on scouts&#8217; radar for a couple of years, but he started moving up draft boards this spring. He has a big, physical frame at 6-foot-3, 205 pounds with plenty of strength. He plays shortstop now and is a good defender, but scouts see him shifting to third base as a pro, where he could provide above-average defense. A lefthanded hitter, he has a simple swing and can go the other way with power. The game comes easy to him and scouts find it easy to see his upside, considering his brother was a third-round pick out of North Carolina and made the big leagues after just 279 minor league at-bats. The younger Seager has a strong commitment to South Carolina, but is likely to be picked in the first round.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Kevin Goldstein</strong> of <strong>Baseball Prospectus</strong> had him <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=17201" target="_blank">ranked</a> at #23.</p>
<blockquote><p>Who he is: A bigger and more powerful version of his brother Kyle, who&#8217;s an infielder with the Mariners. Corey projects as a third baseman as a pro, but has good athleticism for his size to go with soft hands and a good arm. Like Kyle, he&#8217;s a plus hitter with a knack for contact, but his size gives him considerably more power potential.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Jonathan Mayo</strong> of <strong>MLB.com</strong> had <a href="http://www.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/#list=draft" target="_blank">him</a> at #22.</p>
<blockquote><p>His brother, Kyle, reached the Major Leagues in Seattle in 2011. This Seager has the chance to be just as good, if not better.</p>
<p>Corey Seager has some serious bat speed and shows the ability to make consistent hard contact. He&#8217;ll often use more of a two-strike approach, which minimizes strikeouts, but he did start showing the ability to drive the ball more over the course of the summer. He&#8217;s not a runner and the lack of speed may necessitate a move to third at the next level. He does have excellent instincts defensively, with plenty of arm for whatever infield position he ends up at.</p>
<p>With plus instincts and excellent pure hitting skills, not to mention those bloodlines, Seager will be followed closely this spring. He could move up charts if he continues to show the ability to be more aggressive and drive the ball more consistently.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Keith Law</strong> of <strong>ESPN</strong> gave <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/mlb_draft/id/7862134/prep-infielder-corey-seager-appears-likely-first-round-pick-mlb-draft" target="_blank">this</a> scouting report back on April 27th.</p>
<blockquote><p>Shortstop Corey Seager, of Northwest Cabarrus High School in Concord, N.C., has seen his stock rise during the past few weeks to the point where he&#8217;s seen as a likely first-rounder, a future plus third baseman who should hit and grow into power.</p>
<p>Seager, younger brother of current Seattle Mariners infielder Kyle Seager, is bigger at 18 (6-foot3, 200 pounds) than Kyle is today, and while he&#8217;s playing short now, he&#8217;s very likely to outgrow it as he fills out. He&#8217;s athletic and has great hands and at least a 6 arm, so he could be plus at third base in time. He&#8217;s an above-average runner who might drop to average when his body matures, but he should retain that athleticism.</p>
<p>Seager&#8217;s swing has great hip rotation, and he can drive the ball to the opposite field. He loads with his hands a little deep, not quite a full bar but enough to create some length to the ball, and keeps his weight back well, which allows him drive the ball the other way.</p></blockquote>
<p>Personally, I like the pick because he&#8217;s an upside bat that just happens to fill a gaping hole in the Dodgers system.</p>
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