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		<title>Rumor Mill: Zack Greinke consensus shifts to Texas, Dee Gordon trade destinations expand</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The tide has shifted completely in the Zack Greinke sweepstakes with sources now almost universally agreeing that the Rangers are the favorites. Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi speculate that their push for Justin Upton is born out of confidence regarding Greinke. The Rangers’ fervent push for Upton, according to one rival executive, is an ...]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/12/2012-winter-meetings-greinke-talk-posturing-on-ryu-dickey-shields-among-targets/" target="_blank">The tide has shifted completely</a> in the <strong>Zack Greinke</strong> sweepstakes with sources now almost universally agreeing that the <strong>Rangers</strong> are the favorites.</p>
<p><strong>Ken Rosenthal</strong> and <strong>Jon Paul Morosi</strong> speculate that their push for <strong>Justin Upton</strong> is born out of <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/texas-rangers-arizona-diamondbacks-justin-upton-asdrubal-cabrera-driving-winter-meeting-blockbuster-talks-120612" target="_blank">confidence regarding Greinke</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Rangers’ fervent push for Upton, according to one rival executive, is an indication of their confidence in landing Greinke, who also is being pursued by the Los Angeles Dodgers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Later, on Twitter, Rosenthal <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/276824644659585025" target="_blank">said that</a> the <strong>Dodgers</strong> are considering pulling out of Greinke negotiations all together.</p>
<p><strong>Mark Saxon</strong> <a href="http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/8720369/zack-greinke-unlikely-land-los-angeles-dodgers-stay-los-angeles-angels" target="_blank">got quotes</a> from <strong>Ned Colletti</strong> expressing pessimism.</p>
<blockquote><p>Asked if he was on the &#8220;doorstep&#8221; of acquiring Greinke, Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti said: &#8220;We&#8217;re not on the front lawn. &#8230; We&#8217;re barely out of the car at the curb. It&#8217;s better than driving around the neighborhood looking for the house. We know where the house is located. We just can&#8217;t seem to get out of the car.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Dodgers began negotiations with Greinke&#8217;s agent, Casey Close, in Nashville, but it doesn&#8217;t appear that they have made a formal offer to this point. Speculation is that Greinke could command a record deal for a right-hander &#8212; in the six-year, $150 million range.</p>
<p>Given the Dodgers&#8217; deep pockets, it&#8217;s unlikely they would be outbid for Greinke, so it&#8217;s possible he prefers to pitch in another city. Reports indicated he was leaning toward the Texas Rangers.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Jon Heyman</strong> <a href="http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/21297683/dodgers-starting-to-wonder-whether-greinke-may-prefer-texas" target="_blank">relays</a> much of the same sentiment.</p>
<blockquote><p>Dodgers people have begun to sound a bit less optimistic within the last day or so about their pursuit of star free-agent pitcher Zack Greinke. And although there&#8217;s no evidence anything is close or decided in Texas&#8217; favor, a couple of Dodgers people even suggested that they are beginning to wonder whether Greinke may simply prefer the Rangers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just piling on at this point, <strong>Jim Bowden</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/JimBowdenESPNxm/statuses/277181758452150274" target="_blank">says</a> Greinke is impressed with the Rangers organization.</p>
<blockquote><p>A source has told me that Greinke was blown away by Nolan Ryan and Rangers Front Office..loves the ML team, prospects and chances to Win WS</p></blockquote>
<p>So yeah, it&#8217;s safe to say that the momentum has shifted from the Dodgers to the Rangers for whatever reason, but whether this remains legit or is being fed to the press in order to drive up prices, or whatever else, is still unknown.</p>
<p>Like many of you, I&#8217;m just getting tired of the saga already because it holds up all of free agency, but then again, nobody said the rest have to wait for Greinke. He&#8217;s free to do things at his own pace if he so chooses, especially considering that he&#8217;s looking at committing the next 6 to 8 years of his life to a location.</p>
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<p>The suitors for <strong>Dee Gordon</strong> now total four, with the <strong>Braves</strong> and the <strong>Phillies</strong> now apparently in as well, <a href="https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/277133704177008640" target="_blank">according</a> to <strong>Jayson Stark</strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p>#Indians, #Mariners, #Braves &#038; #Phillies among teams I heard asked #Dodgers about Dee Gordon. It appears all but Seat would try him in OF. </p></blockquote>
<p>Not seeing what the return would be from those teams, so there must be other things at work in the background here if this trade were to happen.</p>
<p>Honestly though, I&#8217;m not seeing the upside in moving him to the outfield. The potential for him to be an MLB regular contributor came with the value of him playing shortstop, where his bat could be decidedly below average but he could still have value. In center or, even worse, left or right, he would basically be relegated to the upside of a poor man&#8217;s <strong>Juan Pierre</strong>. Say what you want about Pierre, but Gordon&#8217;s talent with the bat isn&#8217;t anywhere close to Pierre&#8217;s right now, and I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;ll ever get there.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/12/winter-meetings-2012-ryu-offer-rejected-greinkes-price-up-capuanoharanguribe-shopped/" target="_blank">Confirming a previous rumor</a>, it was reiterated that the Dodgers have interest in <strong>Skip Schumaker</strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers and Twins are among the teams that have some level of interest in Cardinals bench player Skip Schumaker, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/12/winter-meetings-2012-ryu-offer-rejected-greinkes-price-up-capuanoharanguribe-shopped/" target="_blank">I gave my thoughts on him</a> the first time his name came up.</p>
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