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		<title>Dodgers Are Looking For A Starter, So Let&#8217;s Look At Their Options</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chad Moriyama</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Dodgers are still in the market for a starting pitcher, according to Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports. Source: #Dodgers not done. Looking for another starting pitcher. Nothing close. Buster Olney at ESPN hears similar chatter, so there&#8217;s definitely something going on, which I suppose shouldn&#8217;t surprise Dodger fans anymore. Since the Dodgers are actively ...]]></description>
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<p>The <strong>Dodgers</strong> are still in the market for a starting pitcher, <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/240148109328515073" target="_blank">according to</a> <strong>Ken Rosenthal</strong> of <strong>Fox Sports</strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Source: #Dodgers not done. Looking for another starting pitcher. Nothing close.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Buster Olney</strong> at <strong>ESPN</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/240446019123437568" target="_blank">hears similar chatter</a>, so there&#8217;s definitely something going on, which I suppose shouldn&#8217;t surprise Dodger fans anymore.</p>
<p>Since the Dodgers are actively looking for rotation help, it seems like a good time to take a look at what their potential trade options are at the moment.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><u><strong>Placed On Waivers</strong></u></p>
<p><strong>Aaron Cook</strong> &#8211; He was <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/red-sox-place-aaron-cook-on-trade-waivers.html" target="_blank">placed on waivers almost two weeks ago</a>, but no reports on whether he cleared or not. Making $1.5 million in 2012 and a free agent after the season, he has a 4.76 ERA/5.06 FIP/4.45 xFIP/4.32 SIERA. Needless to say, he&#8217;s not going to be an improvement over anybody in the rotation. Pointless to acquire.</p>
<p><strong>Edinson Volquez</strong> &#8211; He was <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/edinson-volquez-on-waivers.html" target="_blank">placed on waivers a week ago</a>, but no reports on whether he cleared or not. Volquez is making $2.2 million in 2012 and has a year of team control left. He has a 4.10 ERA/4.12 FIP/4.21 xFIP/4.38 SIERA. While Volquez could help the team, he profiles as yet another #3/#4 type in a rotation full of them. However, there&#8217;s upside with him because he does have electric stuff. Not sure he&#8217;s worth the prospects it would take to get him, but wouldn&#8217;t mind having him in the right deal.</p>
<p><strong>Jon Lester</strong> &#8211; <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/jon-lester-jacoby-ellsbury-on-waivers.html" target="_blank">Placed on waivers five days ago</a>, but whether he cleared or not is unknown. Lester is making $7.6 million in 2012, is set to make $11.6 million in 2013, and has a $13 million club option in 2014 with a $250k buyout. He has a 4.98 ERA/3.99 FIP/3.61 xFIP/3.72 SIERA and that could make him a solid addition to the rotation. However, if he was going to be dealt, especially to the Dodgers, I don&#8217;t see why they wouldn&#8217;t have done so with <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/08/trade-analysis-dodgers-blockbuster-improves-team-but-carries-significant-risk-gif-reactions/" target="_blank">the <strong>Adrian Gonzalez</strong> deal</a>. I&#8217;d love to have him, but I doubt it happens because it wouldn&#8217;t make much sense.</p>
<p><strong>Kevin Millwood</strong> &#8211; He was <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/vargas-millwood-on-waivers.html" target="_blank">placed on waivers a couple days ago</a> and there&#8217;s no word on whether he&#8217;s been claimed yet. Millwood is making $1 million in 2012 and will be a free agent after the season. He has a 4.28 ERA/3.76 FIP/4.26 xFIP/4.40 SIERA, so I put him in the same category as Cook and a notch below Volquez due to a lack of upside. Meh.</p>
<p><strong>Jason Vargas</strong> &#8211; He was <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/vargas-millwood-on-waivers.html" target="_blank">placed on waivers a couple days ago</a> and there&#8217;s no word on whether he&#8217;s been claimed yet. Vargas makes $4.9 million this year and has another year of team control before hitting free agency. He has a 3.75 ERA/4.72 FIP/4.37 xFIP/4.44 SIERA, so it shouldn&#8217;t surprise you that he&#8217;s in there with Cook and Millwood. Not worth the effort.</p>
<p><strong>Daisuke Matsuzaka</strong> &#8211; Placed on <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/daisuke-matsuzaka-on-waivers.html" target="_blank">waivers yesterday</a>, there&#8217;s been no word on whether he&#8217;s been claimed yet. He makes $10 million this year and next year before hitting free agency. In six starts, he has posted a 5.10 ERA/4.19 FIP/4.37 xFIP/4.07 SIERA. While <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/daisuke-matsuzaka-a-worthy-role-of-the-dice/" target="_blank">this article</a> says he&#8217;s worth a waiver claim, four years of mediocrity and astronomical injury risk lead me to a different conclusion.</p>
<p><strong>Shaun Marcum</strong> &#8211; He was <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/brewers-place-shaun-marcum-on-trade-waivers.html" target="_blank">put on waivers yesterday</a> and nobody knows if he has been claimed yet. Marcum is making $7.7 million in 2012 and will be a free agent after the season. He&#8217;s currently posting a 3.19 ERA/3.74 FIP/4.00 xFIP/3.74 SIERA season, which makes him one of the few available that would be worth pursuing hard, as he could be as effective as a #2 in this rotation. Would depend on the prospects involved, but I like the idea.</p>
<p><u><strong>Cleared Waivers</strong></u></p>
<p><strong>Roy Oswalt</strong> &#8211; He <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/roy-oswalt-clears-waivers.html" target="_blank">cleared waivers three weeks ago</a> and is free to be dealt. Oswalt is making $5 million this year and has put up a 5.94 ERA/4.07 FIP/3.49 xFIP/3.39 SIERA line. Those are quality peripherals, but <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/roy-oswalt-texas-rangers-bullpen-ron-washington-unhappy-situation-focus-on-big-problems-080612" target="_blank">he refused to pitch out of the bullpen for the <strong>Rangers</strong> earlier this year</a>, and the Dodgers have a backlog of average starters, so it could be a potential headache. With that said, there&#8217;s potential upside here, as his numbers indicate that he still has a quality arm.</p>
<p><u><strong>Ineligible</strong></u></p>
<p><strong>Cliff Lee</strong> &#8211; For all those asking, it&#8217;s close to impossible. The <strong>Phillies</strong> pulled him back when the Dodgers claimed him earlier, so even though they could put him on irrevocable waivers, they would get nothing in return for him, which makes it extremely unlikely.</p>
<p><u><strong>Rumors</strong></u></p>
<p><strong>Mark Buehrle</strong> &#8211; He hasn&#8217;t been placed on waivers yet to anybody&#8217;s knowledge, but he was <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/dodgers-seek-starting-pitcher.html" target="_blank">named as a prime candidate for the Dodgers by Buster Olney</a>. He&#8217;s making $10 million in 2012, $11 million in 2013, $18 million in 2014, and $19 million in 2015. Buehrle is currently putting up a 3.62 ERA/4.13 FIP/4.22 xFIP/4.37 SIERA, which is solid enough, but certainly not a clear improvement over anybody already in the rotation. Plus, he&#8217;s already 33 and he starts making the most money as he enters the steep decline phase of the aging curve. Meh.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>If the team isn&#8217;t going to be acquiring Marcum, Lester, or, to a lesser extent, Volquez, then I don&#8217;t see what the point is because nobody else listed would provide a meaningful upgrade over the five or six starters the Dodgers already have.</p>
<p>Perhaps the team has yet another surprise in store, but given the available options, this may be as good as it&#8217;s going to get for the Dodgers until 2013.</p>
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		<title>Trade Rumors: Dodgers On Dempster, Greinke, Johnson, Shields, Pence, Victorino, Morneau</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chad Moriyama</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[GM Ned Colletti says the Dodgers are far from done after landing Hanley Ramirez, as they still want a starter and a bat. The Dodgers landed the middle-of-the-order bat they&#8217;ve been looking for in Hanley Ramirez, but general manager Ned Colletti on Wednesday said he&#8217;s still looking for a starting pitcher and another hitter. &#8220;We&#8217;re ...]]></description>
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<p>GM <strong>Ned Colletti</strong> <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120725&#038;content_id=35551530" target="_blank">says</a> the <strong>Dodgers</strong> are far from done <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/07/trade-analysis-dodgers-acquire-hanley-ramirezrandy-choate-for-nate-eovaldiscott-mcgough/" target="_blank">after landing <strong>Hanley Ramirez</strong></a>, as they still want a starter and a bat.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers landed the middle-of-the-order bat they&#8217;ve been looking for in Hanley Ramirez, but general manager Ned Colletti on Wednesday said he&#8217;s still looking for a starting pitcher and another hitter.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re still hunting for starting pitching. We won&#8217;t let this deal stand in the way of that,&#8221; said the general manager, who dealt starting pitcher Nathan Eovaldi and Minor League pitcher Scott McGough to the Marlins for Ramirez and left-handed reliever Randy Choate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Completely makes sense, but who? Hence the mess of rumors to follow.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><u><strong>Ryan Dempster Dumpster Fire Of Rumors</strong></u></p>
<p>Yesterday, it was widely reported that the Dodgers <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/ryan-dempster-rumors-wednesday-1.html" target="_blank">were</a> the front-runners for <strong>Ryan Dempster</strong> and that the team was confident they could land him.</p>
<blockquote><p>A trade between the Dodgers and Cubs still seems “realistic,” Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports tweets.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers have the upper hand in talks with the Cubs, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com tweets.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers are feeling increasingly confident that they can work out a deal for Dempster, ESPN.com&#8217;s Buster Olney tweets. The Cubs don&#8217;t have many alternatives given Dempster&#8217;s interest in playing for L.A. and his no-trade protection.</p></blockquote>
<p>Today, it has been <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/ryan-dempster-rumors-thursday-1.html" target="_blank">more of the same</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers and Cubs continue talking and &#8220;might&#8221; be getting closer to a deal involving Dempster, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweets.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Rival executives say the Dodgers are projecting an air of optimism about their chances of obtaining Dempster, ESPN.com&#8217;s Jayson Stark reports (on Twitter).</p></blockquote>
<p>There seems to be a consensus on his destination, which makes sense since he&#8217;s all but said it&#8217;s the only place he&#8217;ll go at this point.</p>
<p>I had no problem with acquiring Dempster, because I figured he would be the upgrade that would come the cheapest for the team. That is, until I saw this tweeted:</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523Cubs">#Cubs</a> have asked <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523Dodgers">#Dodgers</a> for Allen Webster as primary piece in Ryan Dempster talks.</p>
<p>&mdash; Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/227968874455388161" data-datetime="2012-07-25T03:29:49+00:00">July 25, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Uh &#8230; yeah &#8230; no thanks.</p>
<p>I thought <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/07/dodgers-have-deal-on-table-for-ryan-dempster-involving-two-pitching-prospects/" target="_blank">the price</a> was supposed to go down as they lose leverage, not up.</p>
<p><strong>Allen Webster</strong> is a more advanced version of <strong>Garrett Gould</strong> with better velocity.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Danny Knobler</strong> of <strong>CBS Sports</strong> <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/rangers-dodgers-pursuing-james-shields.html" target="_blank">reports</a> that the availability of <strong>James Shields</strong> has drawn interest.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Angels aren’t the only team in pursuit of James Shields. The Rangers and Dodgers have also made the Rays trade offers for the right-hander, Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Jon Paul Morosi</strong> of <strong>Fox Sports</strong> <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/ryan-dempster-rumors-wednesday-1.html" target="_blank">says</a> the Dodgers have alternatives to Dempster in &#8230; uh &#8230; vastly superior pitchers.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers have Zack Greinke and Josh Johnson on their list in case they don&#8217;t trade for Dempster, Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports tweets.</p></blockquote>
<p>Odd but okay.</p>
<p><strong>Jayson Stark</strong> of <strong>ESPN</strong> <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/stark-on-marlins-phillies-dodgers-garza-twins.html" target="_blank">reports</a> that the Dodgers are in on basically every starting pitcher on the market.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers are in on a number of starting pitchers, including Nolasco, Blanton, Kevin Millwood, and Jason Vargas in addition to Ryan Dempster and Matt Garza. They&#8217;ve also checked in on outfield and first base help, including Victorino and Justin Morneau.</p></blockquote>
<p>The team is also looking at outfield and first base, which wouldn&#8217;t surprise <strong>Ken Rosenthal</strong>.</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523Dodgers">#Dodgers</a> deal for Victorino or Pence possible even if team gets Dempster along with H. Ramirez. LA has been in talks with <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523Phillies">#Phillies</a>.</p>
<p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/228145145290309632" data-datetime="2012-07-25T15:10:16+00:00">July 25, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>In terms of pitching, I&#8217;m sort of at the point now where if the Dodgers don&#8217;t swing a trade for an elite arm, I&#8217;d rather they just do nothing. If Dempster is seriously going to command at least a top five prospect in the system, why bother? With <strong>Ted Lilly</strong> on his way back, the team has five starters, and <strong>John Ely</strong>, <strong>Stephen Fife</strong>, and Webster wait in the minors.</p>
<p>As far as the bats go, I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/07/trade-rumors-dodgers-on-ryan-dempster-shane-victorino-jimmy-rollins/" target="_blank">already explained why I&#8217;d rather the team</a> not acquire <strong>Shane Victorino</strong>, and <strong>Justin Morneau</strong>&#8216;s 0.0 WAR line of .253/.314/.437/.751 doesn&#8217;t impress me. The only name that&#8217;s intriguing is <strong>Hunter Pence</strong>. His .267/.334/.447/.781 line isn&#8217;t impressive, but he&#8217;s a ~3 WAR player that would represent a meaningful upgrade.</p>
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