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		<description><![CDATA[The 2013 projection for the Dodgers from Dan Szymborski&#8216;s ZiPS system was released last week, and given that it&#8217;s probably my favorite forecasting tool, it&#8217;s worth a look to see how the team fared. Forecasting is not a complete science, obviously, and I&#8217;ll address some of the potential pitfalls as we go along, but it&#8217;s ...]]></description>
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<p>The 2013 projection for the <strong>Dodgers</strong> from <strong>Dan Szymborski</strong>&#8216;s <strong>ZiPS</strong> system was <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2013-zips-projections-los-angeles-dodgers/" target="_blank">released last week</a>, and given that it&#8217;s probably my favorite forecasting tool, it&#8217;s worth a look to see how the team fared.</p>
<p>Forecasting is not a complete science, obviously, and I&#8217;ll address some of the potential pitfalls as we go along, but it&#8217;s better to use objective tools like these than the hopes/dreams of fans or the bitterness/wishes of haters.</p>
<p>To start us off, how does the team fare, generally speaking? A solid playoff contender, for sure, but a super team? Doesn&#8217;t seem likely.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><u><strong>The Field Players</strong></u></p>
<p>Despite all the hype over the recent acquisitions, the key cogs in this machine are still <strong>Clayton Kershaw</strong> and <strong>Matt Kemp</strong>. It&#8217;s a promising sign then, that Kemp projects at a 144 OPS+ and the system has confidence in him continuing to put up offensive numbers in the ~.900 OPS range. His defense in center still lags below average, but his bat more than makes up for it. His playing time projection has dropped due to his injury woes last season, and quite frankly, it&#8217;s hard to fault it for that. Regardless, he still figures to be the most valuable field player on the team.</p>
<p><strong>Adrian Gonzalez</strong> is slated to be another bright spot, as ZiPS pegs him to bounceback a bit, though not as much as some want, clocking in at an ~.830 OPS/128 OPS+. That would still be his lowest OPS+ since 2008 (besides 2012, of course), but it&#8217;s a marked improvement considering his age and negatively trending skills. A-Gon compensates for that lagging bat a bit by putting up plus defense almost worth a win by itself. <strong>Hanley Ramirez</strong> factors in as yet another bounceback candidate, projecting at a 115 OPS+, which is an upgrade over last year&#8217;s 106 and is closer to his pre-2011 production. Defensively, even his horribad -8 run defensive rating is optimistic to me, as he was truly terrible with the glove last year. Given that I already wanted to barf seeing him trying to turn a double play in 2012, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised at all to see him put up horrid defensive numbers after basically not playing the position all of spring.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, that&#8217;s where a lot of the offensive optimism ends. <strong>Luis Cruz</strong> checks in at 84 OPS+ (106 last year), which will anger many fans, but is completely reasonable given the track record. He remains valuable through plus defense, though given the sample size, there&#8217;s reason to be skeptical there as well. <strong>A.J. Ellis</strong> at 96 OPS+ (118) is another depressing but completely logical projection, as evidenced by everybody&#8217;s surprise in 2012 at his potent bat. <strong>Andre Ethier</strong> at 112 OPS+ (123) is hard to figure for me, because he has been consistently putting up ~120 OPS+ seasons even if it has come down from the ~130 OPS+ range two years ago. I suppose the projection system thinks he&#8217;ll get old in a hurry &#8230; or maybe it just thinks he&#8217;ll face an inordinately high amount of lefties. <strong>Mark Ellis</strong> at 81 OPS+ (93) shouldn&#8217;t be much of a surprise considering he&#8217;s 36 and put up an 80 OPS+ at <strong>Coors Field</strong> in 2011.</p>
<p>The last guy of the starters is <strong>Carl Crawford</strong>, who is the enigma of the 2013 season. He checks in at 104, which is notable because it&#8217;s basically his career OPS+ and it&#8217;s about what he did in limited time in 2012 over in Boston. That&#8217;s of particular note for me, because what he did in Boston in 2012 can be attributed to <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/10/carl-crawford-mechanics-analysis-for-baseball-proguestus-over-at-baseball-prospectus/" target="_blank">a mechanical fix that I pointed out in an article for <strong>Baseball Prospectus</strong></a>. Understandably, his playing time checks in low, but if he can produce like he did in 2012 but over a whole season, the Dodgers will be much better for it.</p>
<p>Overall, after fixing the playing time of A.J., adjusting Ethier&#8217;s offense up a bit, and adjusting Hanley&#8217;s defense down a bit, the starting lineup totaled about <strong>22 WAR</strong>.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><u><strong>The Bench &#038; The Prospects</strong></u></p>
<p>Assuming a bench of <strong>Tim Federowicz</strong>, <strong>Scott Van Slyke</strong> or <strong>Alex Castellanos</strong>, <strong>Jerry Hairston Jr.</strong>, <strong>Nick Punto</strong>, and <strong>Skip Schumaker</strong>, we&#8217;re looking at around <strong>3 WAR</strong> here after playing time is adjusted back to realistic bench levels. I&#8217;m guessing <strong>Alfredo Amezaga</strong> or <strong>Tony Gwynn Jr.</strong> work their way in somehow, but a five-man bench seems likely initially if the Dodgers can&#8217;t deal multiple pitchers before the season starts. Neither player would affect the WAR projection much though.</p>
<p>Honestly? I have to hope the Dodgers do something to improve the bench, because the current configuration looks rather mediocre, and the other options are keeping <strong>Juan Uribe</strong> and/or <strong>Elian Herrera</strong>. Yuck.</p>
<p>The good news is that <strong>Joc Pederson</strong>, T-Fed, SVS, and Castle are projected to be solid at the MLB level, though it sees <strong>Dee Gordon</strong> basically languishing behind.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><u><strong>The Rotation</strong></u></p>
<p>Clayton Kershaw is simply a beast, and he figures to check in with a 75 FIP-. This might seem high considering his 2011 and 2012 ERA- figures of 63 and 67, respectively, but when you consider that <strong>Felix Hernandez</strong> clocks in at 78 FIP- for 2013, you get the picture.</p>
<p>What might surprise is how close new acquisition <strong>Zack Greinke</strong> comes in behind him, as he figures to put up an FIP- of 81. Granted, he has always projected favorably, as his career FIP- is 80, while his career ERA- is 88, but even adjusting slightly for that, there&#8217;s a definite case there for the best 1-2 punch in the majors.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this is where it gets murky, as <strong>Chad Billingsley</strong> has the stuff to be the #3, but if I were a betting man, I would bet his elbow implodes before July. He projects at 92 FIP-, which would put him around last year&#8217;s performance, which was his arguably his best season since 2008. However, given <a href="http://www.mikesciosciastragicillness.com/2013/01/29/chad-billingsley-delaying-the-inevitable/14406" target="_blank">the nature of his injury and its history in the league</a>, you can basically never rely on him to stay healthy again until he has Tommy John surgery.</p>
<p>Next in the pecking order are <strong>Josh Beckett</strong>, who comes in below-average at 103, and foreign import <strong>Hyun Jin Ryu</strong>, who comes in well below-average at 116. As mentioned before, <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/08/trade-analysis-dodgers-blockbuster-improves-team-but-carries-significant-risk-gif-reactions/" target="_blank">the scouting reports for Beckett match</a> this projection, as he&#8217;s no longer a front-line starter due to his decrease in velocity. However, if he can manage to learn to pitch a bit more, he still has the curve to perhaps slot in as a #3 more than a #4. Ryu is a case where I would take any projection with a mound of salt, because there&#8217;s hardly anything to base objective projections on. Personally, I don&#8217;t think Ryu has the stuff to be a #2, nor do I think he&#8217;ll be a #3 on a team with a $250 million payroll, but he should slot in comfortably in the back-end of the rotation for years. I would project something slightly below-average for 2013 and then hope for better.</p>
<p>The rotation is a strong point because it has both arguably the best 1-2 punch in the majors and depth, with <strong>Chris Capuano</strong> (108 FIP-) and <strong>Aaron Harang</strong> (114 FIP) presumably traded for upgrades (or maybe kept somehow?), and it checks in at about <strong>17 WAR</strong>.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><u><strong>The Bullpen &#038; The Prospects</strong></u></p>
<p>As of right now, I&#8217;m assuming a bullpen of <strong>Brandon League</strong>, <strong>Kenley Jansen</strong>, <strong>Ronald Belisario</strong>, <strong>Javy Guerra</strong>, <strong>Matt Guerrier</strong>, <strong>J.P. Howell</strong>, and <strong>Ted Lilly</strong>.</p>
<p>Jansen is the best of the bunch (63 FIP-) and League projects a distant second (92 FIP-), but Belisario has the most upside in these projections (101 FIP-). After that, Guerra, Guerrier, and Howell are all around replacement level. Lilly projects as a league-average pitcher, assuming he&#8217;s healthy, which would be a boon to a team that has a ticking time bomb in the rotation.</p>
<p>As far as prospects go, ZiPS thinks <strong>Chris Reed</strong> could be a replacement-level fill-in right now, but <strong>Zach Lee</strong>, <strong>Matt Magill</strong>, and <strong>Garrett Gould</strong> need more seasoning. And for all of you who have <strong>Stephen Fife</strong> wet dreams (yes, you&#8217;re out there), he projects at a 4.91 FIP, so keep it in your pants.</p>
<p>Speaking of replacement level, that especially applies to the Dodgers bullpen because of <strong>Shawn Tolleson</strong>, <strong>Scott Elbert</strong>, <strong>Steven Ames</strong>, and <strong>Paco Rodriguez</strong>, so the <strong>4 WAR</strong> projection for this pen figures to be solid.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><u><strong>Team Projection</strong></u></p>
<p>A replacement-level team figures to win 43 games, and the team with the lowest amount of wins to get into the playoffs last year was the <strong>Cardinals</strong> at 88 wins, so 42 WAR puts you in the contender range and 45 WAR makes you viable, while 50 WAR will generally make a team a safe bet to be in the postseason. The Dodgers total <strong>46 WAR</strong>, which puts them well within the playoff hunt: good but not great.</p>
<p>The Dodgers basically project neck-and-neck with the rival <strong>Giants</strong>, while the <strong>D-Backs</strong> lag behind a bit by maybe a half dozen wins or so, but they&#8217;re well within striking distance as well.</p>
<p>So make no mistake, the Dodgers recent spending habits did not make them an elite team, as the money simply duct-taped over both a flawed team and farm system depleted by <strong>Frank McCourt</strong>&#8216;s ownership and <strong>Ned Colletti</strong>&#8216;s questionable decisions. But that&#8217;s not to denigrate the job the new owners have done, as they turned the franchise into a legitimate playoff contender seemingly overnight, which is still saying a lot about what money can do.</p>
<p>Granted, &#8220;we gave you a team that has the chance to make the playoffs&#8221; is not what fans want to hear, but it&#8217;s an acceptable scenario as they lay the foundation to rebuild the franchise the correct way in their own minds. The 2013 projections might not reflect world-beaters like most seem to expect, but it&#8217;s a projection based on historical trends rather than hopes and dreams.</p>
<p>The 2013 Dodgers are indeed a team with a lot of upside, and if everything breaks correctly, they could very well end up being one of the best teams in the league, but they also carry a ton of inherent age and injury risk, which is why the projections come in understandably conservative. Either way, if nothing else, this team figures to be never boring.</p>
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		<title>2012 Winter Meetings: Ryu offer rejected, Greinke&#8217;s price up, Capuano/Harang/Uribe shopped</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Moriyama</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Dodgers made an offer to Hyun Jin Ryu, but it was rejected by Scott Boras, according to Ned Colletti. The Dodgers made a long-term offer to Korean pitcher Ryu Hyun-jin on Tuesday, but it was rejected by agent Scott Boras. &#8220;Predictably, it fell a tad short,&#8221; said general manager Ned Colletti. The Dodgers have ...]]></description>
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<p>The <strong>Dodgers</strong> <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121204&#038;content_id=40528246" target="_blank">made an offer</a> to <strong>Hyun Jin Ryu</strong>, but it was rejected by <strong>Scott Boras</strong>, according to <strong>Ned Colletti</strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers made a long-term offer to Korean pitcher Ryu Hyun-jin on Tuesday, but it was rejected by agent Scott Boras.</p>
<p>&#8220;Predictably, it fell a tad short,&#8221; said general manager Ned Colletti.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers have until Sunday to sign Ryu or they lose exclusive negotiating rights and their $25.7 million posting fee is refunded.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re debating our next step,&#8221; said Colletti. &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe we&#8217;re close right now.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/12/2012-winter-meetings-greinke-talk-posturing-on-ryu-dickey-shields-among-targets/" target="_blank">As I said yesterday</a>, I still think this is all posturing by both sides to get the best deal possible.</p>
<p>For <a href="http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgersnow/la-sp-dn-dodgers-offer-to-ryu-hyunjin-rejected-20121204,0,7524799.story " target="_blank">his part</a>, Boras later clarified the situation to <strong>Dylan Hernandez</strong>.</p>
<blockquote>[Updated at 5:35 p.m.: Ryu's agent, Scott Boras, said he presented the Dodgers with a counteroffer. "We exchanged offers, and negotiations continue," Boras said.]
<p>Boras, said his client should be compensated like a major league No. 3 starter. So, presumably, he’s looking for something in the $50-million range. [Updated at 9:45 p.m.: This estimate was high, according to a person familiar with the discussions.]</blockquote>
<p>The reasons for the Dodgers wanting to wait should be obvious, because if they sign <strong>Zack Greinke</strong> and trade for <strong>James Shields</strong> or something of the sort, then their leverage in negotiations with Ryu becomes extremely one-sided.</p>
<p>For now? Just have to wait it out.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Speaking of Greinke, the Dodgers and <strong>Rangers</strong> are <a href="http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/21265126/rangers-dodgers-believed-to-be-battling-for-greinke-at-moment " target="_blank">apparently in a bidding war</a> of sorts, according to <strong>Jon Heyman</strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers have been viewed as a fairly clear favorite for Greinke, but Texas is showing signs of determination, according to major-league sources.</p>
<p>The Dodgers are seen as having an almost unlimited payroll, but people familiar with the happenings now suggest the derby could go either way. Not many teams could hope to go dollar-for-dollar against the Dodgers, but the Rangers are trying to do just that.</p>
<p>The bidding is said by major-league officials to be &#8220;quite high&#8221; now, with two people pegging the dollar amount at about $160 million. And that&#8217;s with the deal not done yet. There seems an extreme likelhood now that Greinke will not only set a record for righthanded pitcher but for any pitcher, which is currently held by CC Sabathia, who signed for $161 million and seven years with the Yankees.</p>
<p>Some have suggested they could even see the Greinke deal reaching toward the $175-million mark.</p></blockquote>
<p>This situation, however, could be severely impacted by the Rangers negotiations with <strong>Josh Hamilton</strong>, according to <strong>Danny Knobler</strong>, as <a href="http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/danny-knobler/21268369/for-the-rangers-its-likely-greinke-or-hamilton-not-greinke-and-hamilton" target="_blank">they probably won&#8217;t sign both</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>But one scenario they don&#8217;t see happening, according to sources, is a double free-agent signing of both Greinke and Hamilton.</p></blockquote>
<p>And they certainly seem on pace to sign one or the other, <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/rangers-rumors-hamilton-greinke.html " target="_blank">according</a> to <strong>Ken Rosenthal</strong>.</p>
<p>For his part, <strong>Jon Paul Morosi</strong> is of <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/statuses/276099633544036352" target="_blank">the belief</a> that the Dodgers are the clear favorite, while <strong>Bill Shaikin</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/statuses/276108686466875393" target="_blank">adds</a> that this drama may not be over by the time the <strong>Winter Meetings</strong> conclude.</p>
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<p>Connected to Greinke in a way, the Dodgers are <a href="https://twitter.com/pgammo/statuses/276128573377613825 " target="_blank">apparently shopping</a> <strong>Chris Capuano</strong> and <strong>Aaron Harang</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/statuses/276084118498979840" target="_blank">to whoever</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>One exec says &#8220;Dodgers shopping Capuano and Harang around lobby. Greinke and Rhu, or Greinke and Sanchez or Dempster?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>#Dodgers becoming aggressive in shopping Harang and Capuano, source says. Could be a sign of confidence in landing Zack Greinke. @MLBONFOX</p></blockquote>
<p>I doubt either of them would be hard to deal at any point in the off-season. Both are on short-term deals, the Dodgers could eat money if necessary, and the return demands probably won&#8217;t be significant.</p>
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<p><u><strong>COMEDY BREAK</strong></u></p>
<p>The Dodgers are running around <a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/dodger-report/post/_/id/3411/dodgers-shopping-juan-uribe" target="_blank">shopping</a> <strong>Juan Uribe</strong>!</p>
<blockquote><p>One of the agendas the Dodgers are pushing aggressively in the lobby is to find a trade partner to take utility infielder Juan Uribe. Needless to say, the Dodgers are garnering little interest unless they&#8217;re willing to pay his entire contract. Uribe, who has batted .199 the past two seasons combined, is entering the final year of a three-year, $21 million contract.</p></blockquote>
<p>What a disaster.</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Asked an MLB official if <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Dodgers">#Dodgers</a> might be able to interest <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Yankees">#Yankees</a> in Juan Uribe with A-Rod injured. The guy chuckled.</p>
<p>&mdash; Bill Shaikin (@BillShaikin) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/status/276068986679091200" data-datetime="2012-12-04T21:02:30+00:00">December 4, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s become a punchline, as it should, really.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Dee Gordon</strong> <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/mariners-interested-in-dee-gordon.html" target="_blank">appears to be</a> a popular target for teams, including the <strong>Mariners</strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Dodgers are fielding tons of inquiries on shortstop Dee Gordon, tweets Scott Miller of CBS Sports, though they&#8217;re not looking to deal him.  The Mariners are among the teams hitting the Dodgers hard on Gordon, tweets Miller.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve given <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/12/winter-meetings-shohei-otanis-second-thoughts-dee-gordon-shopped-james-loney-signs/" target="_blank">my thoughts on Dee previously</a>, though I&#8217;m not sure what the Mariners have that the Dodgers want.</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not <strong>Felix Hernandez</strong>. Stop.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking more along the lines of <strong>Kyle Seager</strong>, <strong>Corey Seager</strong>&#8216;s older brother. The Mariners have <strong>Alex Liddi</strong> and <strong>Vinnie Catricala</strong>.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Perhaps the <strong>R.A. Dickey</strong> rumors have some legs after all?</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hearing Dodgers thinking big, have strong interest in Dickey even if they sign Grienke. But they don&#8217;t have good young OF to trade.</p>
<p>&mdash; John Harper (@NYDNHarper) <a href="https://twitter.com/NYDNHarper/status/276075183612239873" data-datetime="2012-12-04T21:27:07+00:00">December 4, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Source says Mets could get speedy SS Dee Gordon and top pitching prospect Zach Lee from Dodgers for Dickey. But that doesn&#8217;t help OF.</p>
<p>&mdash; John Harper (@NYDNHarper) <a href="https://twitter.com/NYDNHarper/status/276076782808076288" data-datetime="2012-12-04T21:33:28+00:00">December 4, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>That would be &#8230; a lot for a rental.</p>
<p>Still not sure I buy the interest as legit either. Not yet, at least.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>In interest of filling out their bench, the Dodgers are apparently <a href="https://twitter.com/DKnobler/statuses/276124475341291521" target="_blank">interested in trading</a> for <strong>Skip Schumaker</strong>, according to Danny Knobler.</p>
<p>He plays second, left field, center field, and right field, so there&#8217;s versatility there, but he&#8217;s a terrible defender at second, a bad one in center, and just solid-average in the corners. Over the last three seasons, since he turned 30, he&#8217;s had an OPS+ of 88.</p>
<p>Not so thrilled, really.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Oh, and Colletti <a href="https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/statuses/276105195233087488" target="_blank">shot down</a> those <a href="http://www.chadmoriyama.com/2012/12/winter-meetings-2012-greinke-looks-anibal-in-reserve-sorianolowe-relief-options-ss3b/" target="_blank">rumors from yesterday</a> about them seeking starters at SS/3B. But there&#8217;s no reason to think he&#8217;s being truthful either.</p>
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