Chad Moriyama Dodgers, Sabermetrics, Scouting
The Dodgers have acquired Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford, Nick Punto, and Cash from the Red Sox for Rubby De La Rosa, Allen Webster, Jerry Sands, James Loney, and Ivan De Jesus, according to Jon Paul Morosi of Fox Sports.
Source confirms
@gordonedes report:#Dodgers “close” to obtaining Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford, Nick Punto.@mlbonfox— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) August 24, 2012
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#Dodgers have agreed to send Allen Webster, James Loney, Jerry Sands, Ivan De Jesus, and Rubby De La Rosa to#RedSox.@mlbonfox— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) August 24, 2012
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#Dodgers –#RedSox blockbuster occurs — and it is “close” — Boston would send some cash to LA.@mlbonfox— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) August 24, 2012
I’ll have a more detailed update on this trade later on tomorrow, but as of right now, I’m floored, honestly.
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My first impression though is to say that the trade isn’t for the better of the Dodgers overall. Yes, it makes them a better team immediately, but they likely now have limited financial flexibility for years to come. Ironically, that’s the reason the Red Sox did this deal to begin with.
Before calling me an idiot and asking me what the significance of that payroll worry is because the Dodgers now have money, maybe read this first on the Dodgers payroll and the luxury tax.
Additionally, the Dodgers are sending two top prospects to the Red Sox, both of which could contribute soon, in Rubby and Webster. Sands is certainly not a regular at this point, but he’s ready to try now, and he could develop into one. De Jesus could be a decent utility guy and Loney is whatever.
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The contract obligations the Dodgers are assuming total in excess of $250 million AFTER this year is over, and the team is giving up two of their best prospects and another solid one, so unless the cash coming back is significant, then this probably leaves the team better off in the short-term but worse off in the long-term.
Surely this drastically makes the team better now, but it also sets the Dodgers up to have an old, injury prone, and expensive roster going forward. I sure hope the Dodgers win now, because if they don’t, it could get ugly in a hurry.
ugh. horrible. just horrible.
And I was only joking earlier
Fuck you.
But, but…I was just writing posts on sites excited that Rubby was back. Now he’s gone? Adrian can definitely change the face of the offense, but losing Rubby and Webster seems like a huge hit and the money…holy krap what is the money gonna be? The next 4 seasons worth of players?
It’s actually sort of amusing. The same people who were telling me Rubby is a bonafide stud just yesterday are now downplaying the significance of trading him.
For once I can’t blame “uncle Ned…”
I have never trusted Ned Colletti and I’m not ready to start.
I can’t accurately assess this until I see a thorough Moriyama breakdown of salaries and value potentials, lol. Also, what do you guys see as Rubby and Webster’s ceilings? Seeing Rubby early on, I felt like he could easily be the #2 behind Kershaw, although I’d never pretend like I can accurately judge players, especially young guys with a small amount of MLB experience.
Rubby = #2
Webster = #3
this is horrible, especially now that the light is nearing the end of the tunnel of all the dead money paid to Manny, Andruw, Pierre, et al. To take on an injured Crawford and his long term salary when he will be 33 when he returns in 2014 is just ludicrous. And to give up 2 solid prospects makes it even worse.
That was the depressing part to me.
When CC comes back, he better start raking.
One could argue the Red Sox should be giving us Gonzalez for free for taking Crawford and Beckett salaries off of their books, much less giving them viable cost controlled prospects without significant cash in return. Nobody else claimed those guys and for an NL team to have won the claim on Gonzalez shows how little interest here is for even his long term salary.
I agree with that, yeah.
+1
This is pretty weird actually, people on Twitter are all over me for being negative. People here are too doom and gloom, I think.
Chad, all I gotta say is, Aston kutcher has 12mm followers on twitter. So it’s not like it’s full of rocket scientists.
That’s why I kept asking for a comments rss feed plugin! It’s actually interesting the conversations that happen here.
I listened to dodger talk last night after the game and the way Kevin Kennedy went on it’s as if the dodgers fleeced the red sox. Fuck, we gave up two excellent prospects and a good prospect and Kennedy dismissed them like scrap. Ugh.
And let’s not even get started on how much Kennedy praised Carl Crawford.
I already know not to listen to those morons.
The problem is that the common fans will take them seriously.